Next I wanted to see dimensionally just how much the left portion of the front cover is raised above the textblock when bible is laying down flat. One was a family bible that I had rebound in imitation leather and the other was a hard bound bible that was rebound partly in goatskin and imitation leather. It has the same footprint as the Concord (just a little thicker) and the font is more like the Quentel is size and boldness. The endpapers were done in silk moir I believe it is called, also with multiple lines of imprinting on the spine and the front plus two ribbons. Includes concordance and maps. Since the text blocks are the same, and the TBS cover is quite adequate other than mentioned above, you can buy three of them for one of the Schuyler; a not insignificant consideration. Allan NIV1 BL (Classic Reference Edition) Bible. I am though impressed with the quality of bibles as compared to other consumer products. Traditionally named after a precious stone, this large-format setting has a comfortable-sized print to suit both private study and public reading. The ribbons will be different colors than this for the other covers. I have to say I like it. It follows a similar pattern of their Quentel series but has a few design features that are unique in modern Bible publishing, creating a unique blend of old and new. Typically edge-lined leather will outlast past-down vinyl liners. The only thing that caused hesitation, as I liked the Navy and Mahogany appearances, was the contrasting black liner. The front cover on the Schuyler due to the LARGE hinge radius will not lay as flat against the text block as it will the on TBS, nor as it does as on the Allan Longprimer or Clarendon. It is to my mind almost incomprehensible that anyone could do this careless of a job in ribbon placement. One pair is located at the left edge of the headband as far as they could be placed. Guide to Using the Westminster Bible Covers the features of this Bible and how to use them. Did not realize what was the cause of the bulge until at last. I will add to what has already been said TBS Westminster is a good deal. If they carry an item, this is where it is bought from. There are two essential elements in every language: form (whether oral or written) which includes the phonological, grammatical, and lexical systems . The Schuyler Classic Reference KJV is available at EvangelicalBible.com. Things I Buy. Pros It is 139 pages and is one of the better concordances available in a Bible. Even checked their website after receiving and they still only offer them in black vinyl covered! While there are many nice features on the current crop, I also notice a lack of attention in some aspects of workmanship. I know the TBS one has thin writing paper, but I want to be sure about the Schuyler. note, and in perfect harmony to the times, I ordered 3 TBS Westminster hardbacks in BLACK. I originally bought most of these bibles with the intention of finding the ones that suit me best and selling or giving away the ones that dont. Hi Mary. God bless all of you. Rare OOP Schuyler Reference KJV dark purple. Ive been in various fields of manufacturing for slightly over forty years, so these types of things am geared to notice, looking beyond the glitter of goatskin covers, etc. The three bible options I am considering are as follows: The front cover at and near its left side will tend to remain a little raised from the textblock. The Schuyler Canterbury looks VERY interesting. The binding is sewn, so it has no trouble lying flat. Feb 24, 2023 | LSB (Legacy Standard Bible) | Featured. Allan. Rated 5 out of 5. by Rick . This without any doubt occurred in its manufacture. It would force more of the research into other books or bibles but that usually happens anyways. I am coming to a tentative conclusion that most real, practical needs can be adequately covered with ones choice of the TBS Westminster, Windsor, LCBP Cameo or one of their hand sized editions and one will not need to feel of having missed anything, but still have a quality choice and variety of good to excellent text blocks and durable covers with the obvious far cheaper prices. Schuyler Westminster at the top says a lot about its quality. The unique design presents the text in a modified "reader" format where chapter and verse numbers are available in the margins, but the text is otherwise quite clean and uncluttered. I have also decided to mark (very tastefully and carefully) my Blues too, and ever so slight dings wont bother me as much as my lovely browns. The top of the page contains summaries of the main point of that page. $250.00 + $17.10 shipping. All the rest of the bible pages, seem perfect, although it was only spot checked. His gift of eternal life and adoption was totally of His mercy and grace. I dont want to be a curmudgeon that finds no good thing, but their are definite problems out there for almost every industry. I have the Schuyler in Mahogany as well as a 53BR. The Stridon is Schuyler's latest Bible design. What I determined was that the liner is not glued down to the inside of the cover right up to the beginning of the hinge radius of the liner or to say adjacent the beginning of the flange. The silver gilding on the edges in very lightly applied. 2. Sent the bible back to EVB today and requested a replacement with the black cover as a result of yesterdays telephone conversation. Schuyler Bibles are actually printed and bound by Royal Jongbloed, in the Netherlands. Schuyler Bible's first KJV was their own production of the TBS Westminster. This was mentioned earlier. Its the Canterbury from Schuyler. I dont know how this thread beginning with an outstanding review by Randy, has turned into a discussion of the merits of various publishers and marketers of Gods Word. I agree with you on the soft covers, which do not work very well on larger a sized bible, although the Goatskin on the Schuyler is heavier/thicker than the Calfskin on the LCBP. Much craftsmanship and artistry goes into the design and quality of the Schuyler brand. Nov 1, 2018 #1 I bought a Schuyler KJV Canterbury Bible. For my own use however I think I will stick to the TBS Westminister version. Ive been carrying the Concord, but Ill change to either the Allan or Schuyler very soon. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. Yes, good help is difficult to find. It will most likely be discontinued. I recently received the 2nd generation Schuyler KJV in purple, and Im totally pleased with it. I am also thankful to all of the others who have made comments on this blog. It is edge-lined and perimeter-stitched for the highest quality binding possible. For one thing TBS sells the Westminster for $80, while EVBIBLE.COM (Schuyler) sells that same bible for a discounted price of $60, which I can only assume is the reason that someone would be able to buy 3 TBS Westminsters at the same price as the Schuyler Westminster. But, apparently technology has yet to advance to that level. Picture Information. Your Cambridge Large Print suggestion is interesting to me. I have had contact with EV Bible, and found them to be very concerned about customer satisfaction. Also trent.Im about to sell my new first edotion Longprimer 63. Schuyler uses only the finest materials in crafting their Bibles. Thank you very much for your input and your reviews. Also a fantastic reader. Free shipping. http://thefoolishgalatian.wordpress.com/2010/05/06/interview-with-paul-cline-of-evangelicalbible-com/. What I Like High quality book block printed by Jongbloed Limp, leather-lined goatskin binding Good 32 gsm paper What I Don't Like Reference-optimized setting with especially narrow columns (but see above for my qualifications) The Photos: BlueDouble ColumnGoatskinKJVSchuyler Thanks again for the update. Used what I thought was a suitable glue and firmly pressed down the flanges against the textblock and let it setup. I see a number of stress points on the inside pasted covers and expect they will eventually pull away. Randy, The Long Primer is definitely a more chocolate brown color. The Concord is nice bit doesnt open as well in goatskin. 3 x 1 cm ribbons (Red) Art-Gilt edging (red under gold) Gilt line (gold line inside the cover) I also purchased a fairly large sized Greek/ English NT second hand that had been previously rebound by http://www.AceBookbinding.com . Between the Concord and the KJV Reference, I find the Concord font to be more comfortable to read from the pulpit or in dimmer light. Nevertheless, can one imagine the tears of joy and excitement if what we have today in the form of the Old and New Testaments, in the cheapest paperback conceivable, was available to the common saints and martyrs from the time of the first church to that of the printing press and afterwards!! The longprimer has a much better verse separation with big bold print. It looks to be about 3/16 to 7/32. Schuyler looks at all the aspects of Bible Binding to produce a Bible that represents the highest quality in binding, materials, craftsmanship & legibility. Even my old, but unused, Holman Master Study Bible (mid 1980s) in hand grained Morocco, made in the USA will rival or exceed the Netherlands entries workmanship. What effect this has on small businesses like Schuyler/EV Bible I cant say as I dont know how many give one time love offerings or regular tithes to the ministries. I briefly consulted the NIV, NKJV, and the NASB in the distant past. . I am afraid that is a hazard of living in the times we do rather than a general lack of concern by publishers. Gold, Diamonds, Firearms, Coins. Schuyler Quentel KJV (when it comes out). After a few months I had to get the tape and glue out. Thanks for your excellent reviews. However, as many people like to take notes in their bibles, I wonder how do the papers compare with ink bleed through, since the paper in the Schuyler is supposed to be denser? The latter is according to their website; as for that reason I confine my order not to exceed the $200 mark. There also seems to be somewhat of a difference in price between what the customer pays for goatskin vs. calfskin. $225.99. NASB RL Allan Readers Reference Edition Petrol Blue Goatskin Silverline First Ed. As far as the Quentel, it is a large Bible. Hi J. You have done an excellent job on reviewing this beautiful bible. Free shipping. I think the criticism on this thread has been respectful and should be helpful to all concerned, so where did this feeling that at least one of us is upset about what has been said come from? In another sense, there will be some nice books of Gods Word to be passed on, after I cease this earthly existence. The Schuyler Quentel ESV Black Goatskin can be found on evangelicalbible.com. My current favorite preaching Bible is the TBS version of the Cambridge Large Print Text. Don, Funny thing is; I found a use for all but the Longprimer 63. The text is printed in two-column format with references on the outer and inner margins. The Antique Mahogany is a little brighter and has a lot more red. Great size as well. Everything is in good order on the bottom side alignment of the liner/flange cutout and the attachment of the cover liner to textblock is well effected. Ie is the text block better on the schuyler. References are keyed to the text with letters. Hi Jason. I could conceivable make gizmo nozzle attachment to inject an adhesive in that area from the end, but just not that energetic for those things anymore!, and it may not pan out that well even with simulated mockup in card paper for trial runs. A slight movement of the wrist or fingers brings the page view into alignment easily. 3. ZU VERKAUFEN! This condition does not exist on the back, only the front. Rated 5 out of 5. by jasetaylor Cambridge KJV Concord Reference Bible, Dark Blue Goatskin-RED Letter, Full Yapp. This is the small area of liner material between the end of the hinge and the inside folded over edge of the cover. NEW Allan 43P Longprimer Thinline KJV Ref Bible Purple Highland Goatskin Bible (#144290826871) See all feedback. How blessed we are to live in a country where we have the bible in such a range of quality and quantity, easily obtained, often available for free. I think that if I had problems as John described that the return of the bible would be the proper action. KJV Holy Bible, Giant Print Center-Column Reference Bible, Black Premium Goatskin Leather, Premier Collection, 53,000 Cross References, Comfort Print: King James Version by Thomas Nelson 4.8 (1,806) Leather Bound $6438$169.99 FREE delivery Mar 15 - 16 Other format: Hardcover There is more show-through than I would like, but its only really noticeable in bright lighting. So I guess until it does, it is as you so eloquently and humorously put it in harmony with the times. I agree that it shares commonality with the Thompson and Clarion with references being next to their verses. Or even a portion of the bible in the poorest quality print on wrinkled, aged newsprint! Free shipping. It doesnt have footnotes. Concordance This is the same concordance found in the Concord. The Holy Bible-Authorized King James Version-Indexed-Oxford University Press. Apologize for the use of any incorrect bookbindery terminology and grammar or disjointed commentary. And this was the reason I brought up the variation of costs of the different materials. But these two observations are minor. Feb 17, 2023 | Rebind | . Concluded this was from the flexure while hand holding due to the very light embossing of this text. Home Shop Schuyler Personal Size Canterbury KJV, Firebrick Red Goatskin Bible, Zipper Edition Schuyler Personal Size Canterbury KJV, Firebrick Red Goatskin Bible, Zipper Edition Rated 5.00 out of 5 based on 4 customer ratings ( 4 customer reviews) $ 200.00 In stock Add to cart ADD IMPRINTING Please allow 1-2 extra days for imprinting Click Here Brown, Goatskin, made better than "extremely well." No ghosting through the pages, with references at the bottom of the page. You also might want to take note of the listing on LCBP about the Thompsons, I dont know when or if theyll be rebinding more anytime soon? It is time to leave for evening services so Ill cut this short and wish Gods blessings on all of us. From what I can tell, I see no difference between Schuylers and TBSs textblock. And this was the ONLY color advertized on another website (not EB just to clarify) and I get delivered the COLORED glossy hardbacks. Very pleasing appearance. Schuyler KJV Canterbury Bible. Its most likely 1769. Thats an impressive list and to place the 2nd ed. I hold the Bible the same way you do. Aesthetics aside, with daily use do you think the Schyuler version of this will last for a significantly longer time than the TBS calfskin? I have found the study helps, the references, the imbedded archaic dictionary, and alternative translations of Hebrew and Greek words very helpful. Theyre some of the nicest ribbons Ive seen in any Bible. Schuyler Westminster- personal study, references, and carrying. I have the both the hardback and calfskin TBS Westminster. It is most prominently shown in a picture of the red cover bible (IMG_2356.jpg). The text is extremely easy to read for its size and also seems uninterrupted despite reference numbers being in the text. It has 6 raised ribs. Ill let it go for a hreat deal. There have been collections and burnings of New Testaments in Israel. Free shipping. Purchased new by me in 175631204626 Schuyler has produced the Westminster with all the bells and whistles you would expect in a premium edition - goatskin leather, edge-lined, stitched, art-gilt edges, and 4 thick ribbons. The goatskin seems flawless in its general pattern. Im having that very same problem. Its great to hear that you like it. The spine has HOLY BIBLE, KING JAMES VERSION, and the Schuyler logo printed in silver. A lost society of short attention spans that cannot endure quiet or function without stimulation. And, I understand that LCBP is a ministry, but in some cases TBS bibles are actually cheaper than the bibles from LCBP. Glory and Honour to Our Lord and Saviour, It is my understanding the Old and New Testaments were written by 40 Jewish men through the inspiration and power of GOD. Having said this I am aware of others who disagree. It's clear of all the human intervention and clutter than gets in the way of reading. Buy one Schuyler and the shipping (USPS) is $17.50, buy two and the shipping is a whopping $50, even factoring in the modest cost of insurance. I hold no animosity to those who hold other opinions, what is important to me is that the Bible be read, respected and honored, and most importantly that Gods Word be uplifted throughout the world. TYNDALE SELECT NLT Reference Bible (Black Calfskin Leather) Very Rare - $214.73. If you have normal lighting then the KJV Reference wont be difficult to use. Of the firms that are marketing bibles and related literature, the quality of service is quite high, especially among the companies and ministries we have been writing about. Next noticed the gold imprinting of Bible in Holy Bible on the front cover was getting a crazed effect of small cracks in the text characters surface. $177.51. Norm, i will like to purchase 200 copies of KJV bible bonded leather from your store, let me know the total cost with freight to NIGERIA, looking forward to your reply, I do not have a store to sell Bibles. I think that most printing is indeed done overseas, this is due to the lamentable cost of labor and material here in the United States of America probably more than for any other reason. Features: - Calfskin Leather cover - 200,000+ Cross references - Black text throughout - Quality sewn binding - 4 Ribbon Markers (2 Red, 2 Black) - Quality Bible paper Additional Contents: - Gift presentation page Heavier paper - 38 GSM Bible paper. SCHUYLER NASB PERSONAL Size Quentel (Psl028578) - EUR 136,14. In the interest of keeping the commentary uplifting, Im going to refrain from further comments on this thread in the hope that the focus returns to the review rather than on opinions that while relevant, are not focused on it directly. They are able to produce relatively good quality bibles at a good price because there are people like me who send them money every month as a tithe. Great review! The cover bends over your hand while holding it. THIS is a DEAL BREAKER I think for me. As a result, this small area of liner material is pulled away from being secured to the inside of the cover. 11 point Milo font PDF Sampler. Let us all pray that the forces that want to suppress the Word of God not be allowed to prosper in this country. This helps keep Bible Buying Guide running. Can you tell me if there is any difference between this and the schuyler westminster reference other than the obvious like the goatskin or quality of the ribbons. Respectfully, We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. I did get mine for $50 off original price because a name was misprinted. This makes it very readable. 55,000 Cross References Concordance Glossary of King James Terms Schuyler Bible Maps . Schuyler Bibles are printed and bound in the Netherlands by Royal Jongbloed, one of the finest book binderies in Europe. Its very readable even with the 4 columns on each page, and the cover is just amazing. And since you mentioned rebinds, Leonards has done some pretty good work for me on a couple of bibles. I can see not any difference. Schuyler KJV Canterbury - Overview. My uses are as followedCambridge Concord- carrying to church[sometimes private reading. You really cant beat Schuyler 2nd generation with any bible out there. $349.99 + $9.95 shipping . Thank you for writing this review. They are printed much larger than other chapter summaries that Ive seen (for example, the Thompson Chain Reference, the Dugan/Jubilee Analytical Topical Study Bible, and the Brevier Clarendon). This is totally unacceptable in an $185 bible if the makers of a $30 or so dollar bible can get this right. The thin gold bridges or has to span the crevasses in the goat skin texture as a good flat substrate is not provided due to the shallow text imprinting. I prefer the method this Bible uses because it makes this Bible easier to use. For the price it would be hard to beat and I wouldnt mind marking in it. ESV Schuyler Treveris Holy Bible Dark green Goatskin Full Yapp. I have the first generation as well. I REALLY love both of these Bibles. All of that is a long way of bringing me to my question. The embossing for the gold impressions on the cover and spine are shallow. Or the persecution, torture, and murder of Christians in Russia after the 1917 revolution. WordPress writer by day, Bible reviewer by night, pastor all the time. Free shipping. Learn how your comment data is processed. !, I am disappointed, but somewhat numb to it all, so no big deal, but feel it all merits mentioning. Rated 5 out of 5. by jasetaylor Cambridge KJV Concord Reference Bible, Dark Blue Goatskin-RED Letter, Full Yapp. It would be nice to be able to go to a website, select your translation, text layout, paper, type of binding, etc. I dont know what the solution will be, only time and the market will correct the situation. LOAN STAR PAWN LLC STATE 354609134976 Line Matching. I have nothing but the highest praise for them in my two contacts via telephone. (I wish the Quentels were this size!) If the flange is not glued down as well as stitched, I saw a possibility with use that it may lift after the cover had endured a measure of movement or flexing? It gets really worse. And if Randy has an issue with anything I have posted, then in the future Ill attempt to practice a little more reservation when posting comments, information or links. May Gods blessings be upon Allan, Schuyler/Evangelical Bible, Trinitarian Bible Society, Local Christian Bible Publishers and others who seek to create and distribute the Word in a respectful way. I figure I can try out the text block without the expense of the Schuyler. Noticed just a wee bit of the same condition on the bottom attachment, not really requiring treatment, but as a possible preventive measure did the same there so as not to have occasion?? There are products that have disappeared from the scene to be replaced by some other cheaper, less well designed and made substitute carrying the same brand and model number. KJV, Personal Size Reference Bible, Sovereign Collection, Genuine Leather, Black, Red Letter, Thumb Indexed, Comfort Print: Holy Bible, King James Version: Thomas Nelson: 9780785239284: Amazon.com: Books Books Christian Books & Bibles Churches & Church Leadership Buy new: $83.59 List Price: $109.99 Details Save: $26.40 (24%) FREE Returns Free delivery for many products. And I believe youll find that EVBIBLE (Schuyler) consistently sells bibles from various publishers cheaper than most other online retailers. The appearance of this NT is similar to the calfskin on your TBS Westminster, but stiffer. Natural Grain Black Goatskin Cover with Red full Calfskin Leather Lining. John has raised some valid points about current quality standards in publishing. And when it comes to Bible translations Ive always found this old quote from a Rabbi interesting: He who translates literally is a liar, and he who translates liberally is a blasphemer. A quote from an interesting article found in the link below. The first bible page has some severe MULTIPLE creases (think accordion) starting from the gutter radiating in a circular path towards the top and bottom edges of the page for a couple inches from the gutter. Schuyler Canterbury KJV, Full Yapp Black Goatskin Bible. That would be an amazing Bible. The Slate is an interesting color. Schuyler KJV Reference Bible (Westminster) in Mahogany Natural Grain Goatskin - Review Rated 5 out of 5. by Landon Leslie As I stated earlier, everyone can benefit from criticism, that is how we all learn to get better at what we do. And just in case anyone is interested, the article below may shed a little light on the owner of Evangelicalbible.com and Schuyler brand bibles. KJV Schuyler Treveris Holy Bible Black Goatskin Full Yapp. Alec, John, They are very helpful. Schuyler Canterbury KJV, Full Yapp Black Goatskin Bible - PREORDER. The references and notes make the Schuyler KJV Reference Bible a great study Bible by giving you tools to define words and compare Scripture with Scripture. Various Helpful Characteristics of the Authorized Version This section includes information on the use of italics, Lord vs LORD, capitalizations, use of OT names in the NT, Thou and Ye (very informative). They are a combination of John Browns Self Interpreting Bible and the Concord. I suspect it may last longer than the leather version. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. It is a sad commentary on the society we live in. I own every goatskin kjv available and the Concord is my least favoritr of them all. Here is the personal size version of this Bible. TBS especially produces on their website scholarly articles directed to the support of the Authorised translation. This is a beautiful bible. I am in my upper 30s in 10-15 years will the font in the Concord or the KJV Reference be too small to preach from? for the most part before a supervisor has to order them to tone it down. Page Size: 6.14 x 9.1 x 1.1 (156 mm x 231 mm x 29 mm) 9 mm yapp. $167.50. It is Jongbloed who does all the binding and printing for Schuyler and with that being said, it would appear that Schuylers biggest issue might be with quality control. This in each event would occur in a string of about 5 contiguous pages. I would also like to see a decorative trim, like a gold line, around stitching of the liner. $ 200.00 $ 190.00.
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